Zürcher Nachrichten - Chatbot vs national security? Why DeepSeek is raising concerns

EUR -
AED 4.35335
AFN 77.050797
ALL 96.66512
AMD 452.977132
ANG 2.121943
AOA 1087.00321
ARS 1715.259993
AUD 1.706088
AWG 2.136666
AZN 2.019869
BAM 1.955701
BBD 2.406579
BDT 146.012629
BGN 1.990709
BHD 0.449077
BIF 3539.921292
BMD 1.18539
BND 1.513224
BOB 8.256583
BRL 6.231008
BSD 1.19484
BTN 109.724461
BWP 15.634211
BYN 3.403228
BYR 23233.647084
BZD 2.403079
CAD 1.614917
CDF 2684.909135
CHF 0.911322
CLF 0.026011
CLP 1027.058063
CNY 8.240537
CNH 8.248946
COP 4350.080393
CRC 591.67013
CUC 1.18539
CUP 31.412839
CVE 110.259434
CZK 24.334287
DJF 212.769259
DKK 7.470097
DOP 75.226202
DZD 154.463202
EGP 55.903178
ERN 17.780852
ETB 185.61503
FJD 2.613371
FKP 0.865849
GBP 0.861444
GEL 3.194674
GGP 0.865849
GHS 13.089339
GIP 0.865849
GMD 86.533903
GNF 10484.470707
GTQ 9.164537
GYD 249.97738
HKD 9.259024
HNL 31.537408
HRK 7.536597
HTG 156.372106
HUF 381.328619
IDR 19883.141804
ILS 3.663335
IMP 0.865849
INR 108.693763
IQD 1565.320977
IRR 49934.560565
ISK 144.985527
JEP 0.865849
JMD 187.240547
JOD 0.840489
JPY 183.456955
KES 154.262212
KGS 103.662825
KHR 4804.757439
KMF 491.93733
KPW 1066.851144
KRW 1719.768532
KWD 0.36382
KYD 0.99575
KZT 600.939662
LAK 25713.701882
LBP 106998.998316
LKR 369.511346
LRD 215.369127
LSL 18.971842
LTL 3.500149
LVL 0.717031
LYD 7.497621
MAD 10.838453
MDL 20.096985
MGA 5339.730432
MKD 61.636888
MMK 2489.708718
MNT 4227.553379
MOP 9.608515
MRU 47.674593
MUR 53.852723
MVR 18.32658
MWK 2071.895403
MXN 20.70407
MYR 4.672854
MZN 75.580924
NAD 18.971842
NGN 1643.520192
NIO 43.96778
NOK 11.437875
NPR 175.559137
NZD 1.964681
OMR 0.458017
PAB 1.19484
PEN 3.994898
PGK 5.114742
PHP 69.837307
PKR 334.289724
PLN 4.215189
PYG 8003.59595
QAR 4.35638
RON 5.097064
RSD 117.394074
RUB 90.535429
RWF 1743.311992
SAR 4.447217
SBD 9.544303
SCR 17.203132
SDG 713.016537
SEK 10.580086
SGD 1.506161
SHP 0.88935
SLE 28.834661
SLL 24857.038036
SOS 682.865527
SRD 45.104693
STD 24535.182964
STN 24.498763
SVC 10.454472
SYP 13109.911225
SZL 18.966043
THB 37.225573
TJS 11.153937
TMT 4.148866
TND 3.433027
TOP 2.854135
TRY 51.401485
TTD 8.11259
TWD 37.456003
TZS 3076.744675
UAH 51.211415
UGX 4271.784345
USD 1.18539
UYU 46.367659
UZS 14607.262574
VES 410.075543
VND 30749.020682
VUV 140.814221
WST 3.213333
XAF 655.923887
XAG 0.014004
XAU 0.000244
XCD 3.203577
XCG 2.153391
XDR 0.815759
XOF 655.923887
XPF 119.331742
YER 282.508153
ZAR 19.134414
ZMK 10669.938133
ZMW 23.448816
ZWL 381.695147
  • SCS

    0.0200

    16.14

    +0.12%

  • RIO

    -4.1000

    91.03

    -4.5%

  • CMSC

    0.0500

    23.76

    +0.21%

  • BCE

    0.3700

    25.86

    +1.43%

  • RBGPF

    1.3800

    83.78

    +1.65%

  • BTI

    0.4600

    60.68

    +0.76%

  • BCC

    0.5100

    80.81

    +0.63%

  • CMSD

    -0.0400

    24.05

    -0.17%

  • NGG

    0.2000

    85.27

    +0.23%

  • GSK

    0.9400

    51.6

    +1.82%

  • JRI

    0.1400

    13.08

    +1.07%

  • AZN

    0.1800

    92.77

    +0.19%

  • RELX

    -0.3700

    35.8

    -1.03%

  • BP

    -0.1600

    37.88

    -0.42%

  • RYCEF

    -0.4300

    16

    -2.69%

  • VOD

    -0.0600

    14.65

    -0.41%

Chatbot vs national security? Why DeepSeek is raising concerns
Chatbot vs national security? Why DeepSeek is raising concerns / Photo: JOEL SAGET - AFP

Chatbot vs national security? Why DeepSeek is raising concerns

Chinese AI chatbot DeepSeek upended the global industry and wiped billions off US tech stocks when it unveiled its R1 programme, which it claims was built on cheap, less sophisticated Nvidia semiconductors.

Text size:

But governments from Rome to Seoul are cracking down on the user-friendly Chinese app, saying they need to prevent potential leaks of sensitive information through generative AI services.

AFP takes a look at what's going on:

Who has banned DeepSeek?

First to act was Italy, which launched an investigation into DeepSeek and said it was blocking the upstart Chinese app from possessing Italian users' data.

Italy's Data Protection Authority had briefly blocked Western competitor ChatGPT in 2023.

Next, Taiwan banned workers in the public sector and at key infrastructure facilities from using DeepSeek, saying it was a Chinese product and could endanger national security.

Australia following suit days after.

Then, South Korean ministries -- including defence and unification, which oversees ties with the nuclear-armed North -- and the country's police force banned the app from military and work computers, citing security risks.

On Monday, authorities there said that DeepSeek would not be available from local app stores while a review of its handling of personal data is carried out.

US lawmakers have also moved to introduce a "No DeepSeek on Government Devices Act", with Congressman Darin LaHood saying the national security threat that "Chinese Communist Party-affiliated company" DeepSeek posed to the United States was "alarming".

State-level bans were also issued in Texas, Virginia and New York.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott said personal information "must be protected from malicious espionage operations by the Chinese Communist Party."

Why are they worried?

In the terms and conditions of DeepSeek, there is a section on the provision of personal data to third parties -- very similar to that used by OpenAI's Chat GPT.

But while US companies typically resist government requests for data, "in China when the government requests access, companies are legally obligated to provide user data", said Youm Heung-youl, a data security professor at Soonchunhyang University.

"This distinction between respecting user privacy and providing government access often shapes how countries perceive trust in companies."

According to DeepSeek's privacy policy, it also collects information on "key stroke patterns or rhythms" which detects how an individual interacts with each button.

Is this justified?

DeepSeek "have a policy of aligning with the core values of socialism" Isabel Hou, Taiwanese AI expert and secretary-general of Taiwan AI Academy told AFP.

For example, sensitive enquiries about Tiananmen Square or Taiwanese statehood –- which would typically be censored in China –- should be possible on DeepSeek elsewhere.

"But we find that DeepSeek actually uses the same set of rules when providing services overseas," Hou added.

Beijing, for its part, claims the restrictions do not reflect legitimate national security concerns but highlight "the politicisation of economic, trade and technological issues".

It says the Chinese government "will never require enterprises or individuals to illegally collect or store data".

Is this unexpected?

"DeepSeek was launched in May of 2023, and something like this can't just emerge overnight," Park Seung-chan, Chinese studies professor at Yongin University told AFP.

Experts point to the enormous amount of research and development (R&D) China has poured into companies in recent years.

According to data from the Korea Chamber of Commerce, China ranked second among the world's top R&D investors, following the US, but showed the most significant growth, with its investment volume soaring more than 11-fold over the past decade.

"I see this (the release of R1) as a calculated move that was prepared before the Trump era, and we should pay attention to the second and third waves of DeepSeek," said Park.

What next?

DeepSeek says it uses less-advanced H800 chips -- permitted for sale to China until 2023 under US export controls -- to power its large learning model.

While semiconductor exporting powerhouses South Korea and Taiwan have been thriving on sales of cutting-edge chips, DeepSeek has thrown the industry into turmoil.

"If DeepSeek really used H800, it means that even without cutting-edge semiconductors, similar outcomes could be achieved with general semiconductors, as long as the software is good," Park Ki-soon, a professor of Chinese economics at Sungkyunkwan University told AFP.

"Countries like the US and China are investing massive amounts of talent and resources into software development," he said, adding that DeepSeek showed governments needed to boost this further and "provide support to foster this growth".

burs-hs/oho/fox

L.Muratori--NZN